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Spotify’s play count concerns creators

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  • There has been an adverse reaction to Spotify’s announcement that it is to add play counts to podcasts on its app - reaction which appears to have taken the company by surprise. Spotify issued a statement on Threads addressing creator concerns, telling creators it “really appreciates the honest discussion”, and that it’ll “share more” on Friday. (The responses are not great.) We don’t, yet, see any play counts published in the app.

  • Spotify has also been a little more open about how the play statistics are worked out. On an updated page, the company says that “plays” are the: “number of times a Spotify user actively watched or listened to your content on the Spotify app. Plays are only counted once per user per session, so if you play an episode, pause, and resume playing, that counts as one play.” Elsewhere, Spotify points out that plays of trailers or clips are not included.

  • How different is a “play” on each platform? The Podnews Weekly Review has a total audience size of 185 people on both Spotify and Apple Podcasts over the last 60 days. But, the play count? On Spotify, we’ve had 715 “plays”; but on Apple Podcasts, we’ve had 2,800 “plays” - almost four times as many “plays” from the same audience size. Apple measures any touch of the “play” button - probably explaining Spotify’s example above. (Here’s our overall stats, by the way, for the same time period: 11,817 downloads).

    • One of the highest pain points in the Podnews Report Card earlier this year was that different platforms don’t measure the same thing. We noted at the time that Spotify for Creators, Apple, and YouTube do not use the IAB standards.

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  • The next version of Pocket Casts, currently in release candidate, has new podcast recommendations - including support for the podcast:podroll format. Marked as “Recommended shows by the creator”, it means creator recommendations go to the top of a new section marked “Similar shows”. “Podroll” is supported by hosts including Buzzsprout, RSS.com, Blubrry, and Transistor.

  • If you’re using streaming payments in your podcast, there’s now no need to run a Bitcoin node - banking app CashApp (in the US and UK) has turned on “lnaddress”, so you can use that to get paid. Your lightning address is: (cashappname)<wbr>@cash.app. Strike also uses lnaddress: Podnews’s RSS feed includes an example.

Moves and hires

  • Libsyn have made four hires in its Business Development team. Nick Zier joins Libsyn as Senior Manager of Creator Partnerships; Cliff Clinton steps into the role of Senior Manager of Strategy and Podcast Operations, joining from Lemonada Media, Ossa and Ad Results Media; Scott Herd joins as National Account Director, joining from Sonnant, Daily Wire and iHeartMedia; and Brittany Hall comes aboard as Director of Brand Partnerships, with previous experience at Spotify, Triton Digital, Seekr, Chartable, Megaphone and Sony Music Entertainment.

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Podcast data for May 12

#1 in Apple Podcasts
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IN flag Bhagavad Gita (Spydor Studios)

#1 in Spotify
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IN flag The Horror Show by Khooni Monday - Scary Stories in Hindi (Divay Agarwal)

Over the last week, 201,058 podcasts published at least one new episode (down 1.5%). source

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