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What is a podcast play?

· By James Cridland · 2.8 minutes to read

A “play” should be pretty easy to define - and most podcast platforms that report them report them in a similar way. But not all of them do.

YouTube

From Aug 24, 2026, a public “play/view” in YouTube is “counted the moment a video begins to play - from the very first frame”. It’s called a “first-frame count” by the company.

YouTube also has an “engaged view”, available to creators in YouTube Studio. That number - now no longer public - is the original play/view count, which YouTube describes as “the viewer stayed to watch past the first frame and initial seconds”.

The “engaged view” is, many believe, based on 30 seconds of playback (YouTube has never published how it works). One viewer can watch a clip more than once, and the “engaged view” will go up - there appears to be a maximum of about five plays per viewer per day for one piece of content.

Below, a screenshot taken on Aug 18, showing what the company now calls “engaged views” (here simply described as a “view”). The video had 38 unique viewers, and therefore it’s about 1.5 plays per viewer.

YouTube Studio

Apple Podcasts

A “play” is defined in Apple Podcasts Connect as “The number of plays on unique devices where the play duration is greater than 0 seconds.” Apple has informally told some people that it is, literally, every time the play button is pressed.

As seen below, this leads to very odd figures - where 61 people have listened to this episode, but the “play” count is 459: more than 7 “plays” per listener.

PWR statistics

We believe that any play of the audio counts, whether it’s a human or not - so when Apple Podcasts pauses so your car can tell you there’s a red light camera up ahead, or to turn left, it’s another “play” when it starts playing again. Similarly, when walking the dog, if Apple Podcasts pauses so Siri can tell you what text message just came in, that counts as well.

(Our advice to you - ignore Apple Podcasts play numbers; they’re worthless.)

Spotify

As of June 11 2026, a “play” is “the number of times an episode was watched or listened to for at least thirty seconds on Spotify.” The number is only visible within the Spotify for Creators dashboard.

As seen below, for the same episode, we see about 1.7 plays per listener.

Spotify Connect

AMP Accords

A group from the podcast industry came up with the so-called AMP Accords, which define a play as “30 seconds of content played”.

This isn’t as clear as we’d hope - if I play an episode twice, does it count? - but aligns with the YouTube “engaged view” and Spotify’s new “play” definition.

The IAB Podcast Measurement Guidelines

The IAB defines downloads, not plays. A download is valid if the client downloads enough content to play for 60 seconds, rather than the 30 seconds used for “plays”, above.

Podnews asked RSS.com whether it could recalculate its IAB-certified numbers based on 30 seconds instead of 60, to see what kind of difference it made. In the end, recalculating the figures based on a 30 second threshold made a difference of around +1%. No real change there at all.

However, because the IAB data only defines downloads, which may happen automatically, it’s not comparable to “play” numbers.

For completeness, though, here’s that same episode again - showing download figures from Buzzsprout, an IAB-certified podcast host.

Notice that Apple Podcasts got 197 downloads; but Apple Podcasts Connect reports only 61 listeners. And Spotify got 32 downloads, but Spotify for Creators reports only 22 listeners.

Buzzsprout downloads

There’s more about podcast statistics here.


James Cridland
James Cridland is the Editor of Podnews, a keynote speaker and consultant. He wrote his first podcast RSS feed in January 2005; and also launched the first live radio streaming app for mobile phones in the same year. He's worked in the audio industry since 1989, and was inducted into the Podcast Hall of Fame in 2026.

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